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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2007 11:27 am
by Cornelius
Restoring image then replace usb files and edit the registry only didn't work. Still working.

any suggestion?

Can anyone send me modified ntdetect.com file also? My Email is: cornelius.a.h@gmail.com

PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 2:11 pm
by BitKiller
had also the Problem with the Bluescreen.
I formated the USB-Harddisk by a running XP, copied AUTOEXEC.BAT, bootfont.bin, CONFIG.SYS, IO.SYS, MSDOS.SYS, ntldr from a normal XP inclusive an emty boot.ini and the modified ntdetect.com into the root on the USB-Harddisk.
After that I started the Installation.
All worked fine!

PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 5:08 pm
by DJPaul
can someone please send me the modified ntdetect file as well?
If you do, I'll host it permanently on my server so others can download it. Thanks.

Just wanted to add

PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 11:56 pm
by krusau
I am having the same error that the fellow who posted the blue screen picture is having.

I have just been trying to do this for the last 5 hours, so I am a little pooped :D

But, I plan on trying again. Can anyone suggest where I can read to learn about this modified *.com file? How can it help with the problem we are having?


Thanks!

(And please, someone send that fellow asking for the .com file the file he is looking for. :) )

ntdetect.com

PostPosted: Sat Jan 27, 2007 11:59 pm
by BitKiller
is it legal to host that modified ntdetect.com?
if that is illegal, i will delete follow link to download modified ntdetect.com:
http://rapidshare.com/files/13647216/ntdetect.zip
It was created by Dietmar, see http://www.911cd.net/forums//index.php? ... +universal , Post #7
have fun !

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 3:13 am
by DJPaul
great thanks, so do i just throw this in the C: root on the external hdd or do i have to put it in the winxp installation cd or what?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:42 am
by krusau
Forum error

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:43 am
by krusau
Forum error

Good question

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:43 am
by krusau
I want to know the same thing DJ is asking :P

As an aside:

DJ (or anyone else trying this), when you used the HP program to make the USB bootable, at any point, did the program say anything about formatting in NTFS?

I keep seeing that mentioned in the tutorial, but that doesn't happen to me:


Here is what does:

I have a 450GB drive with some label (say F:)

I use the HP program and just do the first option always (recommended).

After about a minute, it says finished.

Now the F: is gone, and there is a G: there,

This G: has about 1.7Gb space (the rest of the external HD does not show up under 'my computer', but using disk management utilities that come with windows xp, i know that the rest of the 450Gb is still there under 'Unallocated').

When I click the G:, it does not allow me to see what is inside, at this point, it forces me to format. It is at this point I choose to format to NTFS.

Is this similar to what you are experiencing?

Thanks so much everyone!

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 12:30 pm
by BitKiller
Replace ntdetect.com in the I386 installation folder with the modified one (not compressed!).
Than the existig one on C: root on your external hdd will be overwritten on install, or installed if the disk was formated before.

If you need a MBR disconnect all HD except the one you will install/overwrite. Start XP-CD and choose R-Button to start repair-console, when it shows "...C:\>" type (without quotes): "fixboot", skip warnings, and than type "fixmbr". Then type "exit" to restart PC - all done!

@krusau:
Why dont´t you use XP-formating? I choose NTFS, quickformating with 4096 Bytes on my extern HDD Samsung HM 120JC - 120GB, 2.5". It works fine for me. The HP program to make the USB bootable is written for USB-Sticks, therefore it can´t work fine on USB-HDD. Or is that wrong? The Startsectors are very difficulty.

Re: Good question

PostPosted: Sun Jan 28, 2007 5:32 pm
by DJPaul
I never used the hp program, i formatted it ntfs, and the computer boots to it, it tries to boot to winxp but cant... if i tell it to run in safe mode it does it WITHOUT A PROBLEM


krusau wrote:I want to know the same thing DJ is asking :P

As an aside:

DJ (or anyone else trying this), when you used the HP program to make the USB bootable, at any point, did the program say anything about formatting in NTFS?

I keep seeing that mentioned in the tutorial, but that doesn't happen to me:


Here is what does:

I have a 450GB drive with some label (say F:)

I use the HP program and just do the first option always (recommended).

After about a minute, it says finished.

Now the F: is gone, and there is a G: there,

This G: has about 1.7Gb space (the rest of the external HD does not show up under 'my computer', but using disk management utilities that come with windows xp, i know that the rest of the 450Gb is still there under 'Unallocated').

When I click the G:, it does not allow me to see what is inside, at this point, it forces me to format. It is at this point I choose to format to NTFS.

Is this similar to what you are experiencing?

Thanks so much everyone!

PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 2:07 am
by krusau
To Bitkiller:

Hi,

In the tutorial, he has this written:

Reboot into your normal Windows, and get this HP tool , and use it to format your HDD completely. I chose NTFS format, worked fine everytime i tried. After this, my drives are recognized as valid installation devices by the Windows XP installer.


Although the HP tool is said to be specific to Flash/Thumb drives, apparently it does work for HDDs.

Here is where I am at:

1) I plug in my normal 500GB hd, and the computer shows that it is the correct size. Then I run the HP tool, then the computer shows that my USB2 HDD is now only 1.7Gb. I am then forced to format (NTFS) this smaller section to put files into it (I find no format option in the HP tool)

2) I use disk management (right click on my computer, click manage) and see that the rest of the USB2 HDD space needs to be reformatted. I also format this into NTFS.

3) Now my HDD shows that it has a 1.7Gb active partition and a 400+Gb working partition.

Emanuel does mention using partition magic to make the USB2 HDD an active partition, I don't know if what I have so far is a correct starting point. Any comments?

---

Yesterday I spent about 8 hours trying to figure out how to do this, after about 4 I find emanuel's awesome tutorial, but at this point, my HDD has some strange settings.

Eventually what happened was that the 400+GB section of my HDD turned into bad sector :P So then I had to spend a couple hours (Ya I'm slow :D ) trying to figure out how to fix that.

Well it's 'fixed' now, in that I think I can retry the tutorial, but I don't have much time today (have to go play at a concert). I think this will be a fun project if I can get this working eventually, and I am very patient.

I hope I can learn a lot from you guys, you seem really smart! (I consider myself an intermediate computer user. I had no troubles following emanuels tutorial... I just hope I didn't make a typo in the ISO, haha).


Until next time!
-krusau

PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 12:10 pm
by BitKiller
Hello!

@krusau
krusau wrote:To Bitkiller:

Hi,

In the tutorial, he has this written:

Reboot into your normal Windows, and get this HP tool , and use it to format your HDD completely. I chose NTFS format, worked fine everytime i tried. After this, my drives are recognized as valid installation devices by the Windows XP installer.




I dont´t use the HP tool, I prever WinXP formating-tool (see my Post from Sun Jan 28, 2007 12:30 pm).
Is my english really so bad that krusau misunderstood me? If that is so I´m sorry !

What would happen if you use the WinXP formating-tool for your 500GB hd instead the HP tool?

You don´t discribe what mistake makes the WinXP formating-tool, also the reason why you don´t use it .

krusau wrote:Emanuel does mention using partition magic to make the USB2 HDD an active partition, I don't know if what I have so far is a correct starting point. Any comments?


You can also make an active partition under XP:
I would delete the 1,7GB and 400+GB partition by windows disk management and create a primary new one and set it active (rightclick on the new partition, set active).
Have you already tried this?

Thanks for the reply

PostPosted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 11:50 pm
by krusau
Hi!

Thanks for the response.

I found out what part of the problem was.

The HP tool that emanuel has linked to was not the correct one. I found the correct one and have reformatted my hd with it, and I know about the solution of formating using windows XP install screen. I will try this very soon

I am worrying though because I only have SP2 available, and I don't know if this will work (since emanuel only tested SP1).

If it doesn't, I will have to hunt down some of the usb files that are needed.

I will keep you posted, and thanks for the help.

Bit: wenn du willst, du kannst auch auf Deutsch etwas sagen, ich habe in Deutschland ein mal studiert :P

-k

Re: Thanks for the reply

PostPosted: Tue Jan 30, 2007 12:15 am
by BitKiller
Hello!

krusau wrote:I am worrying though because I only have SP2 available, and I don't know if this will work (since emanuel only tested SP1).


Don´t worry, be happy...
I´ve integrated all servicepacks and relevantly hotfixes up to january- no problem.

Dann wünsche ich Dir gutes gelingen, krusau!